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according to the older generation

  • 1 decirse

    1 (reflexionar) to say to oneself
    y yo me digo, ¿para qué sirve esto? and I wonder, what is this for?
    2 (llamarse) to say
    ¿cómo se dice mesa en alemán? how do you say table in German?, what's the German word for table?
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    1. VERBO PRONOMINAL
    1) [uso reflexivo]

    me dije que no volvería a hacerloI promised myself o told myself I wouldn't do it again

    al verlo me dije: -han pasado muchos años — when I saw him, I said o thought to myself, "it's been a long time"

    2) [uso impersonal]

    se dice — it is said, they o people say

    ¿cómo se dice "cursi" en inglés? — what's the English for "cursi"?, how do you say "cursi" in English?

    se les ha dicho que... — they have been told that...

    y no se diga... — not to mention...

    no se diga que... — never let it be said that...

    alto, lo que se dice alto, no es — he's not what you'd call tall, he's not exactly tall

    hablar portugués, lo que se dice hablar, no sé — I can't really speak Portuguese properly

    3) (=llamarse) to be called
    2. SUSTANTIVO MASCULINO
    1) (=dicho) saying

    pongamos, es un decir, que Picasso naciera en Madrid — let's suppose, just for the sake of argument, that Picasso had been born in Madrid

    2)

    a decir de — according to

    * * *
    (n.) = grapevine + carry + the story, make out to be, word + go (a)round
    Ex. However, when Sethi was moved two months ago from chief of technical services to public services, the grapevine carried the story that 'Sethi got his way again' = No obstante, cuando hace dos meses Sethi pasó de jefe de los servicios técnicos a jefe de los servicios públicos, se rumoreaba que "Sethi se ha salido con la suya otra vez".
    Ex. This description suggests that OPAC searching is less dauntingly complex than it is often made out to be.
    Ex. The word went round that he was under arrest.
    * * *
    (n.) = grapevine + carry + the story, make out to be, word + go (a)round

    Ex: However, when Sethi was moved two months ago from chief of technical services to public services, the grapevine carried the story that 'Sethi got his way again' = No obstante, cuando hace dos meses Sethi pasó de jefe de los servicios técnicos a jefe de los servicios públicos, se rumoreaba que "Sethi se ha salido con la suya otra vez".

    Ex: This description suggests that OPAC searching is less dauntingly complex than it is often made out to be.
    Ex: The word went round that he was under arrest.

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    ■decirse verbo reflexivo
    1 (a uno mismo) to say to oneself: yo sé bien lo que me digo, I know what I am saying
    2 (una palabra, frase) ¿cómo se dice "ombligo" en inglés?, how do you say 'ombligo' in English?
    3 (impersonal) se dice que..., they say/people say that...
    ' decirse' also found in these entries:
    Spanish:
    decir
    English:
    arguably
    - coin
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    vpr
    1. [reflexionar] to say to oneself;
    a veces me digo, tengo que trabajar menos sometimes I say to o tell myself I have to work less, sometimes I think I ought to work less;
    me dije, cállate, no digas nada I said to myself o I thought it's better not to say anything
    2. [uso impersonal]
    ¿cómo se dice “estación” en inglés? how do you say “estación” in English?;
    no se dice “cocreta” sino “croqueta” it isn't “cocreta”, it's “croqueta”;
    se dice que… they o people say (that)…;
    se dice que subirán los impuestos it's said they're going to raise taxes;
    como se dice vulgarmente… as they say…;
    ¡que no se diga!: ¡que las fiestas de Valdelapeña son aburridas! let no one say o let it not be said that the festivals in Valdelapeña are boring!
    3. [uso recíproco]
    se dijeron de todo they called each other everything under the sun
    nm
    1. [refrán] saying
    2. [ocurrencia] witticism, witty remark
    3. [en frases]
    a decirse de todos, según el decirse general by all accounts;
    a decirse de todos, no parece que vaya a tener mucho éxito by all accounts, it seems unlikely that she'll have much success;
    es un decirse que todos tengamos las mismas oportunidades it's not really true that we all have the same chances in life;
    imaginemos, es un decirse, que… let us suppose for one moment o for the sake of argument that…;
    es un decirse, ¡claro que no estoy embarazada! it's just a manner of speaking, of course I'm not pregnant!
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    vr
    1) : to say to oneself
    2) : to be said
    ¿cómo se dice „lápiz” en francés?: how do you say „pencil” in French?
    decir nm
    dicho: saying, expression

    Spanish-English dictionary > decirse

  • 2 πρεσβύτερος

    πρεσβύτερος, α, ον (Hom.+; comp. of πρέσβυς)
    pert. to being relatively advanced in age, older, old
    of an individual person older of two ὁ υἱὸς ὁ πρ. (cp. Aelian, VH 9, 42; TestJob 15:2 τῷ ἀδελφῷ τῷ πρεσβυτέρῳ; JosAs; Just., A II, 6, 1) Lk 15:25; of Manasseh (w. Ephraim) B 13:5. In contrast to the younger generation οἱ πρεσβύτεροι the older ones J 8:9. Opp. οἱ νεανίσκοι Ac 2:17 (Jo 3:1). Opp. νεώτεροι (s. νεός 3aβ) 1 Ti 5:1 (similar advice, containing a contrast betw. πρ. and νεώτ., from ins and lit. in MDibelius, Hdb. ad loc.); 1 Pt 5:5 (though here the πρεσβύτεροι are not only the older people, but at the same time, the ‘elders’; s. 2bβ). The same double mng. is found for πρεσβύτεροι in 1 Cl 1:3 beside νέοι, while in 3:3; 21:6, beside the same word, the concept of being old is the dominant one (as Jos., C. Ap. 2, 206). On the disputed pass. Hv 3, 1, 8 (οἱ νεανίσκοι … οἱ πρεσβύτεροι) cp. MDibelius, Hdb. ad loc.—Fem. πρεσβυτέρα old(er) woman (opp. νεωτέρα, as Gen 19:31) 1 Ti 5:2.—With no ref. to younger persons, w. complete disappearance of the comparative aspect: πρεσβύτερος an old man (Jos., Ant. 13, 226; 292 [as a witness of events in the past, as Ps.-Pla., Virt. 3, 377b; 4, 377c]) Hv 3, 12, 2; cp. 3, 11, 3. The personified church is called λίαν πρεσβυτέρα very old 3, 10, 3; cp. 3, 11, 2. She appears as ἡ πρ. the elderly woman 2, 1, 3; 3, 1, 2; 3, 10, 6; 9 and has τὰς τρίχας πρεσβυτέρας the hair of an old woman 3, 10, 4; 5; 3, 12, 1.
    of a period of time (Petosiris, Fgm. 3 and 4 mention οἱ πρεσβύτεροι and οἱ νεώτεροι. In both instances the context shows that the reference is to astrologers from earlier and more recent times) οἱ πρεσβύτεροι the men of old, our ancestors Hb 11:2. ἡ παράδοσις τῶν πρεσβυτέρων the tradition of the ancients (cp. Iambl., Vi. Pyth. 35, 253 τῶν π. συγγράμματα) Mt 15:2; Mk 7:3, 5 (ELohse, D. Ordination im Spätjudentum u. NT, ’51, 50–56: scholars).
    an official (cp. Lat. senator), elder, presbyter
    among the Jews (the congregation of a synagogue in Jerusalem used πρεσβύτεροι to denote its officers before 70 A.D.: SEG VIII, 170, 9; cp. Dssm., LO 378–80 [LAE 439–41]).
    α. for members of local councils in individual cities (cp. Josh 20:4; Ruth 4:2; 2 Esdr 10:14; Jdth 8:10; 10:6) Lk 7:3; 1 Cl 55:4.—Schürer II, 185.
    β. for members of a group in the Sanhedrin (Schürer II, 206–8; JJeremias, Jerusalem z. Zt. Jesu II B 1: Die gesellschaftl. Oberschicht 1929, 88ff). They are mentioned together w. (the) other groups: ἀρχιερεῖς (Ac 4:5 has ἄρχοντες for this), γραμματεῖς, πρεσβύτεροι (the order is not always the same) Mt 16:21; 26:3 v.l.; 27:41; Mk 8:31; 11:27; 14:43, 53; 15:1; Lk 9:22; 20:1.—Only ἀρχιερεῖς (Ac 4:8 has for this ἄρχοντες τοῦ λαοῦ) and πρεσβύτεροι (τοῦ λαοῦ: cp. Ex 19:7; Num 11:16b, 24; 1 Macc 7:33; 12:35; Just., D. 40, 4 al.) Mt 21:23; 26:3, 47, 59 v.l.; 27:1, 3, 12, 20; 28:(11), 12; Lk 22:52 (here, as an exception, οἱ στρατηγοὶ τοῦ ἱεροῦ); Ac 4:23; 23:14; 25:15; cp. 24:1. Also οἱ πρεσβύτεροι καὶ οἱ ἱερεῖς GPt 7:25 (for this combination cp. Jos., Ant. 11, 83; 12, 406).—Only πρεσβύτεροι and γραμματεῖς Mt 26:57; Ac 6:12.—The use of πρεσβύτερος as a title among the Jews of the Diaspora appears quite late, except for the allusions in the LXX (cp. Schürer III/1, 102; MAMA III [Cilicia], 344; 448 [cp. ZNW 31, ’32, 313f]. Whether πρεσβύτερος is to be understood in the older Roman inscriptions [CIJ 378] as a title [so CIJ p. lxxxvi], remains doubtful).
    among the Christians (for their use of the word as a title one must bear in mind not only the Jewish custom, but also its use as a t.t. among the ἔθνη, in connection w. associations of the ‘old ones’ [FPoland, Geschichte des griech. Vereinswesens 1909, 98ff] and to designate civic as well as religious officials [Dssm., B 153ff=BS 154–57, NB 60ff=BS 233–35, also LO 315, 5; HHausschildt, ZNW 4, 1903, 235ff; MStrack, ibid. 213ff; HLietzmann, ZWT 55, 1914, 116–32 [=Kl. Schr. I ’58, 156–69]; MDibelius, exc. on 1 Ti 5:17ff; RAlastair-Campbell, The Elders, Seniority within Earliest Christianity ’94.].—BGU 16, 6 [159 A.D.] πρεσβύτεροι ἱερεῖς θεοῦ Σοκνοπαίου; 347, 6; PVindBosw 1, 31 [87 A.D.].—As honorary title: Iren. 4, 26, 5 [Harv. II 238, 3]. The Engl. word ‘priest’ comes fr. πρεσβύτερος via Lat. presbyter; later Christian usage is largely, if not entirely, responsible for this development; s. OED s.v. ‘priest’ B).
    α. Ac 11:30; 14:23; 15:2, 4, 6, 22f; 16:4 (in all the places in Ac 15 and 16 mention is made of οἱ ἀπόστολοι καὶ οἱ πρεσβύτεροι in the Jerusalem church); 20:17; 21:18; 1 Ti 5:17, 19 (Nicol. Dam.: 90 Fgm. 103a Jac. νεωτέρῳ πρεσβυτέρου καταμαρτυρεῖν οὐκ ἔξεστι); Tit 1:5; Js 5:14; 1 Pt 5:1, 5 (s. 1a above); 1 Cl 44:5; 47:6; 54:2; 57:1. WWrede, Untersuchungen zum 1 Cl 1891, 8ff.—Acc. to 2 Cl 17:3, 5 exhortation and preaching in the church services were among their duties.—In Ign. the πρεσβύτεροι come after the bishop, to whom they are subordinate IMg 2; 3:1; 6:1, or betw. the bishop and the deacons IPhld inscr.; 10:2; IPol 6:1, or the higher rank of the bishop in comparison to them is made plain in some other way ITr 3:1; 12:2 (s. πρεσβυτέριον b; cp. Hippol., Ref. 9, 12, 22).—Polycarp—an ἐπίσκοπος, accord. to the title of the Ep. bearing his name—groups himself w. πρεσβύτεροι in Pol inscr., and further takes the presence of presbyters in Philippi for granted (beside deacons, though no ἐπίσκοπος is mentioned; cp. Hdb. on Pol inscr.) Pol 5:3.
    β. Just how we are to understand the words ὁ πρεσβύτερος, applied to himself by the author of the two smallest Johannine letters 2J 1; 3J 1, remains in doubt. But in any case it is meant to indicate a position of great dignity the elder.—HWindisch, exc. on 3J, end; ESchwartz, Über den Tod der Söhne Zebedaei 1904, 47; 51; HWendt, ZNW 23, 1924, 19; EKäsemann, ZTK 48, ’51, 292–311; DWatson, NTS 35, ’89, 104–30, rhetorical analysis of 2J.—ὁ πρ. and οἱ πρ. are mentioned by Papias in these much-discussed passages: 2:3, 4, 5, 7, 14, 15. For some of the lit. s. the note on JKleist’s transl. ’48, p. 207 n. 18.
    γ. In Rv there are 24 elders sitting on thrones about the throne of God; they form a heavenly council of elders (cp. Is 24:23) 4:4, 10; 5:5–14; 7:11, 13; 11:16; 14:3; 19:4. The elders have been understood as glorified human beings of some kind or astral deities (or angels) (for the var. views s. RCharles, ICC Rv I 128–33; JMichl, D. 24 Ältesten in d. Apk. d. hl. J. ’38); the number 24 has been referred to the following: the 24 priestly classes of the Jews (1 Ch 24:7–18; Jos., Ant. 7, 365–67) whose heads were called ‘elders’ (Yoma 1, 5; Tamid 1, 1; Middoth 1, 8); the 24 stars which, according to Babylonian belief, stood half on the north and half on the south of the zodiac (Diod S 2, 31, 4; POsl 4, 19: HGunkel, Z. religionsgesch. Verständnis des NT 1903, 42f; Boll 35f); the 24 hours of the day, represented as old men w. shining garments and w. crowns (acc. to the Test. of Adam [ed. CBezold, TNöldeke Festschr. 1906, 893–912]: JWellhausen, Analyse der Offb. Joh. 1907, p. 9, 1; NMorosof, Offb. Joh. 1912, 32); the 24 Yazatas in the state of the gods in heaven, acc. to Persian thought (Bousset). It is certainly an open question whether, or how far, the writer of Rv had any of these things in mind.—On the presbyters, and esp. on the question how ἐπίσκοπος and πρεσβύτερος were originally related to each other (a question which is raised particularly in the pastorals; cp. MDibelius, Hdb. exc. after 1 Ti 3:7 section 2 [w. lit.] and before 5:17), s. the lit. s.v. ἐπίσκοπος.—BEaston, Pastoral Epistles ’47, 188–97; WMichaelis, Das Ältestenamt ’53; GBornkamm, πρεσβύτερος; RCampbell, The Elders ’94.—B. 1472. DELG s.v. πρέσβυς. M-M. EDNT. TW.

    Ελληνικά-Αγγλικά παλαιοχριστιανική Λογοτεχνία > πρεσβύτερος

  • 3 Arthur Eld

    сущ.; собст.; SK, DT
    Один из баронов, рыцарь, о котором в мире Роланда слагались легенды. Основоположник рода Эльдов, потомком которого по одной из боковых линий был сам Роланд. Артур Эльд силой объединил разрозненные миры под своим началом, предположительно, тем самым и образовав Альянс феодов. Легенды о нём аналогичны легендам о короле Артуре и рыцарях круглого стола в нашем мире. Например, Артур Эльд, как избранник пророчеств, извлёк свой единяющий меч, Экскалибур, из пирамиды.

    Above them, on the wall, was a picture of Arthur, the Great King of Eld astride his white stallion, and a sign which read (in a curious mixture of High and Low Speech): ARGYOU NOT ABOUT THE HAND YOU ARE DELT IN CARDS OR LIFE. — Над ними на стене висела картина, изображающая Артура, великого короля Эльда, верхом на белом жеребце. Подпись (странная смесь низкого наречия и Высокого Слога) гласила: В ИГРЕ КАРТАМИ ЖИЗНИ ОБХОДИСЬ ТЕМИ, ЧТО У ТЕБЯ НА РУКАХ. (ТБ 4)

    Steven Deschain of Gilead, a gunslinger (which was to say a knight, squire, peacemaker, and Baron… the last title having almost no meaning in the modern day, despite all John Farson’s ranting) of the twenty-ninth generation descended from Arthur of Eld, on the side line of descent (the long-descended gel of one of Arthur’s many gillies, in other words). — Стивен Дискейн из Гилеада, стрелок (иначе говоря, рыцарь, сквайр, миротворец и барон – последний титул не имел никакого веса в нынешнее время, пусть Джон Фарсон и утверждал обратное), потомок в двадцать восьмом колене Артура из Эльда, по боковой линии (другими словами, ведущий свой род от одной из многочисленных наложниц Артура). (ТБ 4)

    … the music had been fuller, the company of older and nobler lines which grew closer and closer together as they stretched back toward Arthur Eld, he of the white horse and unifying sword. — … музыка громче, а гуляли они под недремлющим оком короля Артура из Эльда, изображенного на белом коне с объединяющим мечом. (ТБ 4)

    In the hallway just off from the reception room, that had been, by the tapestry showing Arthur Eld carrying his sword out of the pyramid in which it had been entombed. — В коридорчике рядом с залом приемов, под гобеленом, на котором король Артур доставал из пирамиды захороненный в ней меч. (ТБ 4)

    Rich men, famous men, and well-blooded men had taken gilly-girls since the beginning of time; Arthur Eld had had better than forty himself, according to the tales. — Богачи, знаменитости, аристократы заводили наложниц с незапамятных времен. У самого Артура из Эльда их было не меньше сорока, если верить легендам. (ТБ 4)

    Another link in the chain stretching back into the dimness where Arthur Eld had led his gunslingers into battle with the great sword Excalibur raised above his head and the crown of All-World on his brow. — Еще одно звено в цепи, протянувшейся в далекое прошлое, где Артур из Эльда вел на битву своих стрелков, с великим Эскалибуром в руке и короной Всех Миров на челе. (ТБ 4)

    English-Russian dictionary of neologisms from a series of books by Stephen King "Dark Tower" > Arthur Eld

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